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Alan Gluyasy's avatar

Totally correct about the limitations and expense of battery storage - we are talking about minutes of storage in many cases, not hours and certainly not days. Having said that, there is a lot of research being done on new battery technology and I would take any bets on that.

Hydrogen is spruiked as an alternative but few people seem to consider the cost of the engineering in storing high pressure hydrogen. It is not like gasoline or diesel, which we already have the infrastructure for, that can be stored at ambient temperature and pressure.

Hydrogen embrittlement causes a loss of strength in steel pipes and tanks which adds to the cost and complexity of storage. For bulk and commercial who can install their own storage facilities, hydrogen may be economic, but the idea that anyone can call in at the local gas station and fill a car up with hydrogen is a pipe dream.

Robert Durkacz's avatar

Nuclear power. See the thread started and terminated by Alan Gluyasy. There is the problem. The Kyoto treaty was negotiated in 1997. Robert Hill signed it for the Australian government. But John Howard thought he knew better and since then the Liberal party has not been able to put denialism behind it. They remain incapable of taking a responsible approach to a matter of great concern to Australia's future.

The right time to move towards nuclear power would have been back then, nearly 30 years ago but the Liberal party was silent. It is not exactly silent now, because it still thinks it can get votes by letting people think climate change is a hoax. The Liberals came up with a nuclear policy at the last election and we really do not if this was serious or a gimmick while they refuse to engage. We need a professionally informed Liberal party, not a populist one, but until it decides to be responsible on serious matters educated people will be and should be reluctant to vote for it.

At the forum that I indicated the preponderance of opinion is that nuclear power is no longer an economic proposition. I am not convinced, but these people on the progressive side are willing to discuss it in a rational manner. That cannot be said for the Liberals and that must change.

Climate change is not the only thing we need to come to grips with by the way. You (Liberal party members) have a long way to go.

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